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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:18:00 -
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Hey guys. The early cuttoff was put in place because we intend the Alliance Tournament to be about people representing their alliances, whatever that alliance may be, instead of the kind of club-team system you see with the NEO or SCL (which help fill that need very well).
In cases where a corp or member are caught by surprise outside of *their* alliance for one reason or another, we can make exceptions to get them back in. What we don't want is people jumping from one alliance to another just for the tournament.
Look at it this way: that Alliance Tournament is essentially the Olympic Games of EVE. People can move from one country to another, but it's intended that you represent the country that you claim as your own the whole year round.
If you have a request for an exception, send a petition to the community queue and we'll take a look. But if you're trying to move from your home alliance to another one just for the tournament, I don't expect we'll grant those requests.
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:22:00 -
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Edward Olmops wrote:Callic Veratar wrote:Tahnil wrote:Why this deadline? It doesnGÇÿt make sense at all. Interested people should have a chance to join an alliance for this tournament. I would have liked to participate again (like last year), but now IGÇÿm out  You did have a chance, TQ has been up and running for 10 years. You can join an alliance for ATXII right now if you like. Yeah, funny. This is not about a single pilot joining "an alliance" in time, but a whole corp that has not been part due to technical reasons. I am sure you are aware that some alliances use neutral Trade/Hauler/Warfare whatever corps? We could not join because we could not play properly then.
Send us a petition to the community department with the details of your technical reasons and we'll take a look. Like I said this is intended to ensure that people fly with their real alliances, not to block people on a technicality.
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:43:00 -
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Professor Clio wrote:The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that.
Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances.
We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith.
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:07:00 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:Should I even bother petitioning ?
It sounds like you designed this rules change (with no warning) specifically to keep me from flying on the team I've been captain of in 10 previous CCP tournaments.
Wasn't aimed at you, but we did recognize going into it that it would affect you. However we're not stopping you from competing, just saying that for this particular tournament you need to compete for your home alliance.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:31:00 -
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Matthias Duran wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Professor Clio wrote:The thought occured to me that this cut-off was to prevent "B teams". Does it mean that Red and Blue can enter separate teams then as we are separate alliances. A purple team is our preference and to be fair we are a single entity but if that's the only way for us to get the people who have already been practicing for months to fly in the AT we may do that. Our default position would be for you to enter multiple teams as you are multiple alliances, however we will consider requests for exceptions in special circumstances. We want to enable all pilots in EVE who want to represent their home entity, and we'll do what we can to fairly allow people to do that in good faith. If RvB fields two teams, at least half of the members of each team will be the alts of the other. I assume you don't want that.
Real life individuals may only compete on one team. Like I said before, if you would like consideration for an exception to the cutoff have someone in leadership submit a petition to the community queue. We're going to do our best to ensure that everyone gets a chance to compete in good faith.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:52:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:
Also how do I send this petition?
F12 -> Create New Petition -> "Other Issues" group -> "Community" category
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:10:00 -
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Aliventi wrote:When will we find out how/when to enter the alliance in the tournament? With the Odyssey rebalence and new ship additions when will we find out the point worth of each ship? Also, how many points will we be allowed for the group play and then for the rest of the tournament? In other words, can you make a devblog with all the important stuff please? 
It's being written now. We wanted to get the call for commentators out asap because that process takes time and commentators and teams will need to block the days in their schedule.
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.17 10:34:00 -
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Hey guys, CCP Gargant and I have been keeping a close eye on the community petition queue and we have seen and considered every petition there so far. We're going to hold off on announcing most decisions so far until we have had a chance to discuss them with the wider team, but I wanted to make sure you all knew that we have not forgotten anyone.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:27:00 -
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Boiglio wrote:I received a response to my petition. I've always understood that discussing or sharing petition-based interactions with other players is considered not exactly kosher with CCP. CAStabouts is scrambling to determine our best path forward in light of your decisions. I need to know if I can share the response to my petition with my teammates so that we all have the same information/wording to work from going forward. I responded with a message in the petition system, but have not received a reply. Posting here in the hopes someone recognizes the need for timely feedback in one place or the other. Always, Boiglio PS. I don't suppose there's any hope of additional point categories added to the tournament for things like "shopping in Jita", "combat probing", "manufacturing and research", or "organizing things into hangars"? Yeah, I didn't think so either. Ah well, never hurts to ask, right? 
I'll make sure the community guys get back to you asap, they understand the nuances of those rules better than I.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:33:00 -
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Hey guys, we've now responded to the petitions we received over the past few weeks. I understand some of you will be unhappy with our decisions, and to be completely honest in many cases we felt terrible having to say no to people who care deeply about the tournament. However we do believe that this rule will lead to the best tournament over time and will hopefully be (along with vastly improved communication) part of the changes that will prevent the even more crushing events during the leadup to the last tournament that none of us want to see happen again.
In virtually all cases where we have said yes to requests for exceptions so far, the petitioners have all had a very similar set of circumstances, so we wanted to put those criteria here to show people a bit of the thought process that went into the decisions so far:
The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on May 15th.
The petitioning player wishes to rejoin the alliance that the character was most recently a member of.
The character in question has spent a significant amount of time in this alliance over the past year.
We have not so far been granting exceptions for corporations or players who were members of alliances on the 15th, as they are encouraged to compete with that alliance.
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CCP Fozzie
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:05:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:
The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on May 15th.
Well I guess im one of the very few that wasn't in an alliance for several months before the deadline, that wasn't allowed in....... darn 8(
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The petitioning player wishes to rejoin the alliance that the character was most recently a member of.
You are always welcome to rejoin the alliance you were most recently a member of before May 15th.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:53:00 -
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Iridescent Star wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, we've now responded to the petitions we received over the past few weeks. FYI, The petition to see if my corp would still qualify for the Alliance Tournament has not been responded to. Thanks, Me
Your petition was responded to on 2013.05.22 14:03:00 by CCP Gargant.
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